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The Hunter's Perfect Storm: Combining 5 Natural Factors for Trophy Success
We break down the five key factors that significantly increase your chances of a successful hunt when combined. These natural indicators compound to create optimal hunting conditions when your target buck is most likely to be on its feet during daylight hours.
• Barometric pressure of 30.2 and rising creates increased deer movement
• Moon phases, especially "red moon weeks," trigger feeding due to gravitational pull
• Temperature drops of 20 degrees between daily highs push deer to feed earlier and longer
• Weather fronts cause deer to feed heavily before and after storms
• Understanding the different phases of the rut helps predict specific behavior patterns
• The science behind deer movement doesn't need to be complicated—focus on recognizing patterns
• Success story of pro staff member Chris who tagged "Bambino," a monster 6x6, by following three of these five factors
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Hello and welcome back to Blacktail Coach Podcast. I'm Aaron and I'm Dave, so today we want to talk about the five factors leading to a successful hunt as part of our program, and these are different individual items that in and of themselves help increase deer activity, but when you start adding, it's kind of compounded. When you add another one of these factors in, it means you're more likely to hit a level of success. We're going to cover these and share with you a couple of stories of of how these have really piled up and brought some big bucks in yep, I get a lot of guys asking me well, what do you look for?
Dave:what are the days that you feel like you have to be out there? And these are the five things that I look for and and. If I have two of them, I feel like, well, you know, it could happen that day. It may not. And and and and. This is not a guarantee by any stretch of the word, but it's like you said it, it does increase deer activity. And then, if I have three out of the five, well, I feel like I gotta be in stand that day because there's a good chance I'm going to see my target buck. If I have four out of five, I'm probably going to quit my job so that I can be in stand that day. That's how it doesn't happen that often and when it does, it's like no, today's the day. It's like a 90% chance I'm going to see my target buck. If I've got five out of five, the first thing I do is go down and buy a lottery ticket and then I go into stand.
Aaron:Yeah, okay. So the first one is the barometric pressure, and so we're looking for barometric pressure and it depends on—so there are different sources that say different level, but you say 30.2 and rising.
Dave:That's what I like is 30.2, the barometric pressure is 30.2 and rising, because that just is going to be one of those factors that's going to get deer up and moving and they're going to be up earlier and they're going to be up longer.
Aaron:So why does the barometric pressure cause them to move? What's the science, I would say, behind that?
Dave:So barometric pressure tells them. You know, if there's a high pressure or a low pressure it usually signifies some kind of weather change, you know. But deer, that inner ear on deer, is really sensitive to barometric pressure. And when it gets to 30.2, some guys will say 29. I like 30.2. I tend to see a lot more deer movement at 30.2 and rising. Now, that's not to say that if it was at 29.9 and holding, that's still not a bad barometric pressure. I don't think barometric pressure is bad until we get down to 28. And then the deer movement seems to nearly drop off completely. But that barometric pressure at 30.2 and rising, yeah, I always see a lot of deer movement when I have that.
Aaron:I had. So this was during actually Washington's extended buck last year. For Modern we had every single day and maybe you want to think about if you're a modern rifle hunter, think about if you did that extended season. Were you seeing more activity during the extended buck? Right. Because we did have. We had 30.2 to 30.45. Uh-huh, All four or five of those days during that last year. And there were a couple other factors that we'll get into Right, right.
Dave:And most hunters don't even stop to think about barometric pressure, but it's something that you can look up days in advance and recognize.
Dave:Oh, look at there, it's 30.1 and rising 3021, and rising 30.3, you know just anytime it gets above 30.2, I just feel like there's a good chance that I'm going to see a lot of deer activity, a lot of deer movement, and a good opportunity for me to see my you know my target buck. And so a lot of guys, like I said, don't pay attention to it because they don't necessarily understand it, and I think we make things more difficult than they need to be. I mean, essentially all we need to know is that at a certain mark at barometric pressure, you're going to see more deer activity. You just are. You don't even need to know the science behind it, you don't need to know the history of it, Just know that. Start checking your own experience when you see a lot of deer, check what the barometric pressure was that day and you'll start correlating a certain point and it's usually about 30 that guys will start seeing a large increase in deer activity.
Aaron:Okay, and so if you're wondering how can I check that, going out, checking out a few days, I know, with my iPhone, the weather app that's on my iPhone, I pull it out, I look at because it gives you the weather in your area and if you scroll down that page it'll show you what the barometric pressure is for that particular time. But if you click on it, on that barometric pressure for right now, it'll pull up a different screen and it'll let you see out for like a week.
Dave:Right. Of where the barometric pressure is going and I think a lot of the apps like HuntStand or Onyx, I think a lot of those apps have barometric pressure on them as well. Okay. And I know that the Mike Hay hayes or no, I'm sorry adam hayes.
Aaron:Adam hayes, I got a friend of mine's my case.
Dave:Adam hayes, the the moon phase guy. Uh, I know on his app every day it gives you the barometric pressure yeah, and and it's and you talk to a lot of guys that that are serious trophy hunters and they'll verify that they pay attention to that kind of stuff. Yeah.
Dave:And there's no. Like I said, it doesn't have to be any kind of witchcraft or deep scientific explanation. All you need to know is that at a certain point you're going to see more deer activity. There's going to be more deer movement because the barometric pressure is up.
Aaron:Yeah, that's telling something to their instincts to get up and move.
Dave:Right yeah, start feeding. Feed up while you can.
Aaron:Okay, I brought up where you find it because we have a lot of guys who have. Well, how am I supposed to know what the barometric pressure?
Dave:is. That's how you find it Right and, like I said, they've never paid attention to it before so they have no idea.
Aaron:And, honestly, before last year I didn't either. Yeah, now you mentioned Adam Hayes, so that's actually the next thing is what he created? The moon guide, but it talks about the moon phase, so tell us about that.
Dave:So Adam Hayes has the Deer Hunter's Moon Guide. You can get the app for your phone or you can uh, you know, get online and order the the sundial that he puts out every year. I think it's like 15, 20 bucks or something like that. And, uh, basically, to explain it in a way that that that's going to make it easy for everybody, is to simply say that he has already done all the work for you as far as the moon phase and he tells you at what point is the best.
Dave:Two times or the strongest gravitational pull of the moon, twice a day when that happens and there are certain times when those strong gravitational pulls of the moon are during hunting hours and he tells you where it would be. And then he has these suggestions on there hunting near field edges, hunting near bedding areas, hunting in transition zones and whatnot. Now, I don't go that in depth in it and I don't claim to be an expert as far as to explain the scientific side of it, other than when those phases come during daylight hours. Those deer, it's just another something to get them up out of their bed to feed.
Dave:To feed earlier, to feed longer, to come out in the open a little bit earlier or whatnot to get them to daylight, and it's simply the gravitational pull of the moon again on that deer, whose inner ear is sensitive to these things. So you start combining some of these things and all of a sudden you realize there's a good chance that deer is going to get up and feed when I need him to.
Aaron:Yeah, is going to get up and feed when I need him to. Yeah, so it was similar to growing up on the Puget Sound. We had the tide books that we would go and it was a little cost us like a buck, and it would have, and we just called them big dot days, right, because it gave you a dot next to the date of when it would be a good day fishing.
Dave:Yeah, and Adam Hayes uses the red moon.
Aaron:Yeah.
Dave:So there is a week I want to say it's every three to four weeks there is a week that is a red moon week, and during that week is when the gravitational pull of the moon, because of the phase that it's in, is the strongest. Yeah, and you want to hunt those days, and that's not to say that you can't kill a big buck on any other day of the month. You can, you absolutely can, and it happens all the time.
Dave:What we're talking about is putting more odds in your favor there is a high probability that you're going to see your target buck during this week, if you can hunt during that red moon week.
Aaron:Well, it was the same thing with those tide books. So if it was a small dot day even if it was great weather and there was going to be no wind out on the water and it was going to be super calm and it just looked like a great day of fishing if it was a small dot day, we probably wouldn't have gone out because those were so accurate.
Dave:And that's all based on moon, on the moon phase, yeah.
Aaron:And it just ebbed and flowed like every couple of weeks Right Followed the moon cycle, and there were certain times where, yeah, it would be the big dot days and we didn't know how to explain it, but those were the days you made sure you got out and went fishing, like I said with barometric pressure and the moon phase, guys, you don't need to know the science behind it other than just to make it easy on yourself.
Dave:Somebody's done the work for you. It does correlate with deer activity. Uh, you know, during that red moon week we're not saying that you can't kill a big buck any other time of the month, but what we are saying is is that during the times when that deer would normally get up and feed, there is an extra pole, that an extra pull on that deer to get out of his bed and feed earlier or during daylight hours. The same with the barometric pressure. It's exactly the same. It's just an extra pull, something else that's going to motivate him to get up and feed and come out to where you want him to.
Aaron:Yeah, and one of the other things with the moon guide is he'll also tell you whether it's better for a morning hunt or an afternoon hunt. And it was funny. So last year I went out and the particular spot I was hunting, a couple of guys were doing a morning hunt and I was doing an afternoon hunt. They were leaving as I was coming in and I'm getting all my gear on while I'm standing there and oh, you're doing an afternoon hunt, because I think a lot of it with Go Hunt, the Clear Cuts. It's that same idea of you just get up at 3 am and go out hunting and you always go early in the morning to go hunting. And so they said, oh, you're doing an afternoon hunt.
Aaron:I was like yeah, the moon guide and the moon phase and everything else was pointing at come out this afternoon and they looked at me like, huh, what are you?
Dave:what are you even talking? And it it's really a resource that that a lot of hunters I'd say 95 of hunters really don't know about yeah and and they're intimidated by it because they feel like for lack of a better term, they feel like it's above their, their thinking yeah I guess and you know I I'm no genius by any stretch of the word, so it's just a matter of it doesn't have to be hard.
Dave:Make it as easy as possible. I don't need to understand it other than just the basics. If you can put it to me in a third grade level, okay. But if I see that it works, I'm satisfied with the third grade level, so long as I can read that thing and tell when I need to be out there yeah. And Adam Hayes has made it really easy.
Aaron:I mean it's super easy.
Dave:A kindergartner really could do it.
Aaron:Yeah, because it's that simple. The app is even easier than the dial. Yeah. And even that I could figure it out, and I had no basis, no context to really understand what I was looking at, and I could still figure it out last year being my first year, so yeah, I mean in all honesty, you don't need to know anything about the moon phase, because Adam's done the work. Yeah.
Dave:Okay, I need to be out there at 245. Yeah.
Aaron:It's like which where's the red part of this calendar? Okay, that's when I need to go hunting.
Dave:That's it.
Aaron:And that's literally all I looked at. Morning or afternoon, all right, there we go.
Dave:And again, it's not to say that you can't kill a buck any other time, but it's just saying that the probability of you seeing them are much higher during those times.
Aaron:We could catch fish on a small dot day, but we weren't going to catch as many, they just weren't as active. Next thing we want to get into temperature drops or changes in temperature.
Dave:Now, is it just drops or Whenever it goes from warm to cold. Okay, yes. And I like a 20 degree temperature swing. So if it was 70 degrees for the high one day and the next day the high is going to be 48 or 50. Yeah.
Dave:You need to be out there because that's the day that those deer are going to get up and move early, just because of that swing in temperature. You know, if it's 10 degrees you might see a little bit more activity, but not much. It's that 20 degree mark seems to be the difference between seeing one or two deer and seeing. You know, I've had as many as seven come in on a set and be there almost at the same time, just because we've had a temperature swing of 20 degrees or more.
Dave:Yeah, and that doesn't happen a lot 20 degrees day over day, not a lot, yep.
Aaron:And it wouldn't be necessarily the high of one day versus so today, let's say today, got up to 75,. So today, let's say today, got up to 75, but tomorrow morning it's going to be 48 degrees, so the high temperature is going to be 55 tomorrow. So it would be the high temperature swing of 20 degrees, not 20 degrees between high and low between the two days.
Dave:Correct, correct 20 degrees between the highs is typically what I like to see, and going from warmer to colder.
Aaron:Okay, that actually probably ties in with the next one quite a bit is if you're seeing those temperature drops, it probably has something to do with weather fronts coming in.
Dave:Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. There's times where we have high pressure and it's just cold out.
Dave:You know it's in the teens or the 20s, but it's sunny yeah and so and it's, uh, barometric pressure is 30.27 and you know it's holding or it's rising to 30.29 and uh, yeah, that's, that's going to be a great day to see a lot of deer movement. Now, you know, it doesn't mean you're going to see deer movement in the, you know, in the middle of the day, in the afternoon. You know I I'm always checking on that red moon and seeing what time. But I mean, you know me, you've known me for years now.
Dave:I typically hunt the evenings yeah and uh, and I'll let the moon phase dictate that a little bit, in the sense that if it's, if it's not, a red moon week, I'm going to stick to my evening hunts, uh, just because I don't like going in on the dark into my set, because I don't know what I'm bumping yeah and I just you know I'm after a mature buck.
Dave:I don't, you know you're not going to get many opportunities you know, and I mean, you've heard me say it a hundred times the easiest buck to kill is the one that doesn't realize he's being hunted, and so I don't want to go in the dark take a chance of bumping him.
Dave:I always like to go in about one o'clock, sometimes 11, depending on the moon phase if it's a red moon, if it's no red moon week whatever, and then the barometric pressure, and so that will dictate, you know, a lot of what I and we'll get into that more but it dictates a lot of what I do and how I approach my hunting throughout the season. Mm-hmm.
Aaron:But as far as weather fronts now, is that because a strong high pressure system where it could be sunny, if that's pushing out a rain system or cool weather, that's a weather front? Is there a particular type of weather front we're looking for?
Dave:or it's so it. With weather fronts, if it's a storm, they'll. They tend to feed up before the storm and after the storm okay okay. If it's just showers, say we got a day. If where it's just uh, showers on and off, they're gonna feed between the showers. So between those those little weather fronts that are coming through the micro weather.
Dave:You know bands and whatnot and. But, like on a big storm, they're gonna feed in front of and behind, they're gonna bed down during it and yeah, they're just gonna hunker down and then they're gonna feed up before front of and behind. They're going to bed down during it and yeah, they're just going to hunker down and then they're going to feed up before the storm comes and after the storm comes. Now, if it's like the description that I told you, where we got a sunny day but it's super cold and whatnot, that is a change in weather.
Dave:So, that is kind of a weather front and they'll feed up before that and, depending on how cold it gets will determine how much feeding they will continue to do, because in the winter time, you know, they burn calories just trying to stay warm, so they have to feed about every two hours. Yeah.
Dave:But they can hold up for a four hour stint, you know whatever if it's you know, rain, showers or whatnot for four hours. But they have to stay warm and it's a matter of survival. So they're going to get up about every two hours. Now that doesn't mean they're going to get up and walk a hundred yards. They may get up and go five feet, move over and bed right back down and start eating the stuff that's on the ground around them.
Dave:Yeah, so they're going to feed, but it doesn't mean they're going to get up and move, if that makes sense.
Aaron:So Especially if they bedded down, yeah, in a place where there's plenty of food around them.
Dave:Yeah, they don't have to. Which?
Aaron:you know they very well could. But yeah, if it's cold, just that movement, yep, it's going to cause them to get up and move around, just to probably warm up versus the rain.
Dave:They're just trying to stay out of the rain, right, right, but I mean we've had cold snaps here where it's down in the 20s and the teens and whatnot, and it takes deer from you know showing up on my set, say first light or last light, to showing up every two, three hours you know passing through and stuff because they're going from, you know feeding area to feeding area.
Aaron:Yeah, and we talked about this on the last episode you had mentioned where, asha, you waited and there was a little 15-minute window where it stopped raining Right and you waited and deer came in.
Dave:Yeah, as soon as it stopped raining. And I told her, I says we got this window coming up and as soon as it stops raining, I says you need to be ready. And it stopped raining. You know, we're looking on the radar, we're about five minutes out. Well, five minutes went by and it stopped raining, and not three, four minutes later that deer showed up on the set and she shot it you know.
Dave:So it was uh experience or whatnot. You know, it's not a skill set to to read a radar. You can see the front, you know. You can see the storm line. You just have to know what to do yeah you know, do I need to be out there during the rain? Probably not, unless I'm trying to be there as soon as it stops raining. Well then, when am I? I guess what I'm saying is when are the key times that I need to?
Aaron:pay attention. You know, and I said it's easy to read the weather report right so to have an idea to game plan unrelated but yet related somehow. So I was just in, uh, disney world and they have those afternoon monsoons every day we would watch the weather report okay, when are those coming in? Because we would have to plan around those particular times of what we were doing. That's exactly.
Dave:You know, again going back to the inner ear of deer, and how sensitive it is yeah they're tuned into that weather so they know when it's coming and when it's leaving, and that's all it is. You know, every phone has got a radar app. Yeah. Everybody can pull that up and you can watch that storm coming off the coast, as long as you're in an area with cell coverage when you got cell coverage, yeah.
Aaron:Which I kind of was, but then I kind of wasn't. If I were up in my stand 20 feet off the ground, I had cell coverage. Down on the ground I would have the occasional ping but nothing. But that did have the weather and, as you say, as those fronts come through, when it stopped raining it was raining lightly. Three storms kind of blew through there, but as it rained, when it came to a stop for 15, 20, 30 minutes, I would hear that all the deer get up and start moving around, because I had my game ears on. Then it'd get quiet again and it'd start raining and by the third time I was like okay, they're not moving anymore, so it must be about to start raining. You could predict that, yeah, by by just listening and that's just it.
Dave:You're just reading deer behavior, that's all you're doing, you know. And when you start putting it down like this, you start. There are seasons I guess I can relate it to. There are seasons where you feel like you're on this bike and you're pedaling as hard as you can and you look down and the chain's off you know, and you're just discouraged because you've put in all this effort and time and money and all these things that we do to create an opportunity.
Dave:And when you can sit there and put these factors into play, you can realize okay, maybe this morning is not the best time for me to go hunt. Maybe, you know, cause I'm looking at it, later on in the day seems to be a higher probability. And you know I can, I can use my time more wisely or effectively, I guess is what I'm trying to say and so you're not out there on days where you know you're not going to see much but, again, that's just.
Dave:That's not saying you can't be out there and that you can't kill a big buck on those days.
Aaron:You can, but if you're playing the odds, yeah, you know what I mean it lets you know kind of what the house is holding there you go but if you're the type who I'm going to take some time off to go hunting, if you're factoring in all of these, well, first thing you're going to do is look what wins the red moon yeah okay, go to the deer I'm going to prioritize those days to potentially take time off, work or looking towards when is it most likely that I'm going to see weather coming through.
Aaron:So we know, I know a lot of guys hit early archery this year or do that every year. Well, there's not as much as change in a typical year. There was this year. Not as much of a change in weather. It's going to be 80 degrees every day, so that might not factor into it, but it can help you plan ahead.
Dave:Absolutely.
Aaron:And with a plan, the odds on being more successful with a plan are just there.
Dave:Success is no accident.
Aaron:Yep, so the last thing is phase of the rut. So how is that one of the factors leading to a successful hunt?
Dave:Well, so phase of the rut is something that I don't think guys pay too much attention to. I think they view the rut as just one big giant, for lack of a better term. Rut fest, yeah, where you know these deer are going around the whole time and just breeding nonstop. And the reality is is there are phases to the rut. You've got the seeking phase, you've got the lockdown phase, you've got, you know, the heart of the rut, you've got the post rut. You've got the post rut, you've got the pre-rut. All of these phases will dictate certain deer activity that that is unique to that phase.
Dave:Um, the best time to rattle, I feel, is during the seeking phase of the rut. You know that pre-rut, during that pre-rut, when there's fewer does in standing estrus, those bucks are really susceptible because they know there are a few does and when they hear two bucks fighting, they assume that okay, there's a doe that is in standing estrus over there, and so they they come running in on that and then I feel like also post-rut can be effective as well. But I, just once I get out of that pre rut, out of that seeking phase, I don't like to rattle much anymore, simply because those does get tired of being chased and they start hiding from the bucks. So if I start rattling, I'm just blind rattling, blind calling. Then if I do that and she's tired of being chased, she's going to turn and go away from that rattling.
Dave:Yeah, and if my target buck is tailing her. He's just going to turn and go with her.
Aaron:Yeah, she's going to take her scent with her. Right, exactly so even if he's not with her, if she's moving off.
Dave:Yeah, he's going to go.
Aaron:Quarter mile to the left.
Dave:Yeah.
Aaron:He might be.
Dave:When I get to that, when I get to the post rut, I like to see the buck before I start rattling. But that's just me. There are guys out there. I said this in a previous episode yeah, that that rattle in 30 bucks a season. You know, hey, they're good at it yeah you know I I'm not, I'm not the guy that's good at it. So that's just that's my opinion and that's how I kind of approach it. But you know, that's, it's just not my thing.
Aaron:Okay, five factors. I'm going to go over them again real quick. Barometric pressure 30.2 and rising the moon phase. You're looking for red moons, temperature drops of 20 degrees and weather fronts in between the storms and knowing what phase you are in the rut. So recently we had one of our pro staff, chris, got a monster buck.
Aaron:He got a giant and he had a lot of these factor in to his success Right, Because he was paying attention to these Now. The rut wasn't much of a factor right now, but why don't you tell us about what he had going for him?
Dave:So Chris was chasing this buck. He called Bambino and it is a. What is it? A 7x8?
Aaron:6x6 with eye guards 6x6 with eye guards. Not counting the eye guards.
Dave:Oh, 6x6, not counting the eye guards, but just an absolute giant of a black tail. Six by six with eye guards, not counting the eye guards. Oh, six by six, not counting the eye guards. Yeah, but just an absolute giant of a black tail, bigger than anything I've killed, and so he came on pro staff here last year, so this is his second season with us.
Aaron:But third season using the system.
Dave:Yeah, I'm sorry, third year using the system, second season being a pro staff and Chris just a great guy. I call him a good kid. I'm 55. He's easily 30s 40s.
Aaron:He was in your youth group when you were a youth pastor 30 years ago. So that's why he's a kid, because he's never left that stage of life.
Dave:But he's just a great guy and I'm so happy that he got this buck. But so what it was is he had a 20 degree swing in temperature, so it had been a high eighties low nineties for three, four, five days straight. Yeah.
Dave:And then it dropped down to 68,. I want to say so there's the 20 degree swing right there and that was the high for the day. And then the moon phase it was during a red moon week yeah and I don't know that he realized that, but it was during a red moon week and I think he did, maybe he didn't I?
Speaker 3:I don't, we'll find out. Yeah, we're gonna bring him on and have him tell his story.
Dave:But uh, and then the barometric pressure it was at 29.99 and holding okay and so, uh, yeah, I mean he had three out of the five and I always tell guys, like I said at the beginning, if I have three out of the five, I I feel like I've got to be in stand Now. I typically like 30.2 on the barometric pressure and rising, but, like I said, 29, until you get down to 28.
Aaron:29.99.
Dave:Yeah it's really close to 30.2. Yeah, so when you get down to 28, that's when it becomes a real negative you know yeah. But at 29.99, that's still really good. And he went out there and 20 minutes before dark, bambino came in and he shot him at what? Six yards, something like that.
Aaron:Nine yards something.
Dave:Yeah, it was ridiculously close, it was super close.
Aaron:Yeah, well, he said it was six yards from the base of the tree, but because he was up, in stand. That added another three yards because he was shooting down at the angle.
Dave:But you know, and I mean just guys, I believe pictures are up on Facebook.
Aaron:They are on Facebook.
Dave:If you haven't checked it out, do it, You're going to. What a spectacular buck.
Aaron:Yeah, blacktail Coach on Facebook, and it was the envy of us all.
Aaron:Yeah and yeah, it was, yeah, the envy of us all. Yeah, so part of what we are going to do, that we want to do with the blacktail coach podcast, is we we're going to actually bring on and we're going to call it our success stories. So guys who've used our system or who have been successful during the season, we want to talk to them, mostly to find out about their history of hunting. Uh, like you said, three years last year he got bit by the bad weather bug and didn't, wasn't able to get a shot on one yep, uh year before he got a nice he also had a cougar in his area, though, too yeah, so he
Aaron:ended up killing that cat, but it had managed to chase all the deer out of the area but we're going to do some podcast success stories and hopefully you can pick up some of the things that they've done or just the encouragement of knowing that guys who have just gotten started hunting. He's been hunting for a long time but has really gotten back into blacktail hunting since he moved back to the area.
Dave:Yeah, he was a whitetail hunter for a long, long time, simply because he was disappointed and frustrated with blacktail hunting not seeing any of them and always hearing about big ones but never seeing them. And so this is his first year harvesting using the system. But he has been on the cusp all three years because he's had pictures of big, dominant bucks coming through his set. He just hasn hasn't been in set, whether it be a ground blind or a tree stand when they've come in when they've come in and so this one here, he's finally putting it together.
Dave:As far as the five factors, and he held to him religiously, I mean he was checking them every day, he was checking weeks in advance and and realized, you know, I mean he was telling me four days before he shot bambino, he was I need to be out there on that day.
Dave:That's the day he's going to come in yeah you know, some people say, well, it might be just luck. No, it's not luck, it's not coincidence. He put all the factors there and it's like no, there was a reason why that buck moved that early yeah you know. So it's like he knew he was going to see him that night and he did.
Aaron:And he did, yeah, yeah, all part of the system to have a successful hunt and making that plan. So, anyway, thanks for joining us. Have a bit of a quicker episode today, but hope you got a lot out of this one. If you can go on to where you get your podcasts and leave us a review, we'd really appreciate that and we will see you next week. See you later.
