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The Case For Clear Cuts In Modern Blacktail Hunting
Let’s rethink what success looks like in blacktail hunting. When schedules tighten, budgets pinch, and weather goes sideways, clear cuts offer a practical, ethical path forward that keeps us learning and in the game. We explore why open ground—rich with food, sunlight, and visibility—can help you introduce non-hunters, hunt with kids without frustration, and stay flexible when sets get blown by logging, flooding, or predators.
We walk through the tradeoffs: how longer shot distances change scent control needs, why playing the wind still matters, and when it’s smarter to pivot than to force a pressured set. If you’re holding a doe or any-deer tag and your trophy is meat in the freezer, clear cuts can deliver consistent movement and clean, ethical shots. For hunters dealing with cougars and bears shifting patterns, we share real stories of sets going cold and how having a clear cut backup kept the season alive.
This conversation also honors the social side of hunting—glass cuts with friends, revisit the methods you learned from a grandparent, and build memories that outlast the harvest. We dig into budget-friendly choices, road scouting for future sets, and staying safe when windstorms and rain make tree sits risky. Along the way, we highlight learning paths through classes and gatherings, and we center what matters most: ethics, enjoyment, and steady growth. If your plan is evolving, or you just need options that fit real life, this deep dive will give you confidence to pivot without guilt.
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Welcome back to the Black Dale Coach Podcast. I'm Aaron.
SPEAKER_00:And I'm Dave.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, this week, the case for clearcuts. So this idea for this episode was sent in to us by Pete, who was a participant in the boot camp last year, and he made some really good points about hunting clear cuts, which is a different system and definitely an acceptable way. A lot of guys, when they're just starting out, great way to hunt. There are a lot of benefits to it. And we'll get into all the points that he brings up.
SPEAKER_00:Right, right.
SPEAKER_01:It's one of the ways to go hunt.
SPEAKER_00:I don't want to confuse anyone or mislead anyone. My way of what I teach is my way of doing it. Yeah. It's not the way, it's my way. And there are a hundred different ways to skin a cat. So it's just that this is the way that I found successful. Some guys have found hunting clear cuts successful.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And so it's probably a fairly successful way for, especially if your goal is meet, you're very likely to get something walking out in the clear cuts. Right. Right. But there's spot and stock, and there's your system, which is more set hunting, clear cuts, and it all works for different people for what they want to do. Some of it, like the spot and stock, that works really well. I know for getting big bucks. And we see those guys at the shows that get the big bucks who do spot and stock.
SPEAKER_00:Right, right. Some guys hunt big timber, some guys hunt cascade, high alpine kind of stuff.
SPEAKER_01:Nathan Endicott, he has to do the spot and stock with his system. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And fantastic at it.
SPEAKER_01:And if we watch his videos on YouTube, yes.
SPEAKER_00:That would Steve Isdall, same thing.
SPEAKER_01:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_00:And then there's Chris Pascua down in Oregon who does it differently and is very successful in what he does. And so there's, like I said, there's a hundred ways to skin a cat.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So Pete, he sent us some bullet points. We're going to go through those one by one and just talk about those. And yeah, thanks for sending that in. And if anybody has ideas, we're always open. We actually got one great idea today that probably won't we won't be listening to it because it has to do with Father's Day. But another great idea that someone sent to us through, I think it was Facebook Messenger. But yeah, send those ideas in because we want to create content that you're interested in hearing and yeah, want to engage with. So here we go. The case for clear cuts. So introducing non-hunters to the outdoors in a way that they can see the scenery and maybe wildlife.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you're going to see a lot.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Of wildlife. I don't know if you're going to see a lot of deer in Washington.
SPEAKER_01:Well, that's just a Washington. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You go to Oregon, you're going to see a lot more deer. But yeah, I mean, there's a lot of wildlife because clear cuts equal food.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And plenty of sunlight for foraging.
SPEAKER_00:That's what they all need, and it's going to be a point of interest to every animal out there.
SPEAKER_01:And I would say more than glassing, even just clear cuts, but glassing hillsides. Right. So, which I know is more popular down in like say southern Oregon, probably California, because you can see further because there's less growth. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Trees and you know, well, even eastern Washington and Eastern Oregon, you know, bear hunting and whatnot, you're glassing hillsides, or they green up first in the spring and that kind of stuff.
SPEAKER_01:And it's a real good way for introducing non-hunters because it is a low impact as far as physically, you're not just throwing them into hiking for miles. It can be a fairly simple, enjoyable activity.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_01:You know, you go out and maybe you go out for the morning and then you're hopping in the vehicle, move to another clear cut, possibly. Yeah, that's a good one. And then scenery, we see a lot of wildlife. Just the more time you spend out in the woods, the more wildlife you're gonna end up seeing.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. It doesn't matter if you're in clear cuts or in timber or whatever, you're gonna up your odds of seeing stuff, obviously.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And I would say probably pretty good odds seeing owls. Owls are probably my favorite thing to see for as far as wildlife because, well, for one thing, the size of them. I saw a giant spotted owl with a lot of white to them this year when I was coming out of the woods. But when they take off and they're flying, you can't hear them at all. Right. And they just sit in the tree and they're looking at you, looking around for the mice. And yeah, to me, that's just one of the coolest things, different types of wildlife to see out there. Second one, did you have another thought?
SPEAKER_00:No, no, I was just gonna agree with you. You know, I see and every time I sit, whether it's on a clear cut or in the timber or in the heavy cover and whatnot, I always think of cats. You know, just because they're so spooked all the time and they really kind of avoid, and even bears, yeah, I would say that too. And there's countless times that if I just sit there for a couple hours, I end up seeing something like that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So, second one, spending time with little children who can't sit still or keep quiet. So he says, like my son who is eight and hasn't learned to stay quiet yet. And that we actually brought that up in a previous episode. I think what was it, the family one.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But it was it's a great way if you have young children to introduce them to hunting without you getting completely frustrated because they're not gonna necessarily stay quiet. Right. And it's constant questions and movement and the hunt doesn't mean the same thing to them that it does to you. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:It's just a different perspective from a kid. You want to make it fun, and I know I've told you this several times there, and the first time I took the kids fishing for the first couple years and stuff, you know, first time I took them fishing, I took my fishing rod. I don't know why. Because that thing never ever touched the water. Kids are kids.
SPEAKER_02:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_00:You cast it out there, tell them to watch the bobbery and everything, you turn your back to do something, you look back around, and he's already reeled it in.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I thought something was on there.
SPEAKER_00:I thought I had a bite, and that's fine. So long as they have fun. I mean, you gotta make the outdoors fun if you want to continue this down. They'll get serious about it in no time.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:When they start seeing stuff being caught, stuff being shot, things being harvested, brought home, put on the wall.
SPEAKER_01:Seeing the almost. Yeah. That Buck almost walked out into the clear cut where we almost got a shot. Just missed them, or whatever. Yeah, just be quiet. I would say if regardless, just have lots of good snacks that aren't gonna be noisy for them so they can snack on stuff. Yeah, maybe a quiet game on your phone that they can play in between glassing. But yeah, it a great way to start kids out. Absolutely. If you want hunting to be part of your relationship, something that you do with them, it's a great way to start.
SPEAKER_00:And there's a lot of life lessons wrapped up in hunting.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And one of the first is that don't take yourself too seriously.
SPEAKER_01:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_00:As a kid, just enjoy life.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And there's nothing wrong with that.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, next bullet point. When there is not enough time to do proper scent control or to be able to get to or stay long enough at your set because of external obligations. So the scent control, a little less. I mean, we're always playing the wind whether you're gonna sit on a clear cut or a set, but when you're maybe making a hundred to two hundred yard shot or maybe a little longer, now that's not to say that deer can't smell you from that distance. Right. But there really is a bit of a difference between trying to get them to come into 10 yards or 12 yards or something like that, where it really is an issue. But you always want to play the win, but there's a lot, there is some time involved with that and a lot of setup, and because we're using ozonics and hosing yourself down with the field spray and all those things.
SPEAKER_00:Well, and he mentioned the time limitation there as well. And I get that. I guess I'm on a different end of the spectrum on that because if I can get 30 minutes in the stand, I'm gonna go sit 30 minutes in the stand. So long as I can get it in and out without being seen or heard, or you I'm gonna do that. But I understand where he's coming from. You know, you got appointments or whatever, you can't make it to your stand. Maybe there's a place that's closer and you can go sit on a cut for a little while and watch that and take the chance that something will come out there and not blow your set out.
SPEAKER_01:And there's clear cuts that are 15 minutes from where we're at, if that. But my set, it's an hour drive, and then it's 15, 20 minutes to actually go walk out to my set, get settled, is about a half an hour. It's about 15 minutes to come back because you're we're pulling off all of our clothes, putting them in the scent-free bag, right? Might not be as much of an issue when you're doing clear cuts or something. But I mean, I'm looking at I'm burning almost three hours, and that's not my hunt time. So I can understand if you've got four hours to hunt, well, do you want to burn two out two and a half hours, two hours and forty-five minutes of a four-hour hunt just traveling to go sit there for a while?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You know, that that does make a lot of sense where you you want to get as much time out there as possible. So having it close to home and those clear cuts where you can just drive out, sit down, you're ready to go, and it might take you 15 minutes and you're hunting, as opposed to an hour and a half, and then you're hunting.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. Next point to spend social time with friends who do not know the system or don't want to do the system. Yeah. Because some people that makes sense.
SPEAKER_00:I I'm just laughing because I'm trying not to take that personal that don't want to do the system. Well, some of it is just this is laughing. I mean, if you can't laugh at yourself, who can you laugh at? You know, and it's it's totally fine. I get it, I get what he's saying, and we call it a system just because we don't know how else to describe it. But no, absolutely, there's a hundred ways to skin a cat.
SPEAKER_02:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_00:So whatever you guys want to do, if that's it's your tag.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Ultimately, it's your tag, which means it's your hunt, which means you do with it what you want. Don't let anyone tell you.
SPEAKER_01:And we've brought this up. I don't know if we've ever talked about it on the show, but I know we've had we've brought it up in certain settings, whether it's the class or the boot camp, we've brought it up. So this is a different setting. If your grandfather hunted this way and you got to hunt with grandpa when you were a kid, or your dad did, and those are great memories, or an uncle, favorite male or favorite uh mentor of yours. Right. That figure. And to so you get to connect if and if glass and clear cuts was the way that they did it, they might not want to do a different system because every time they go out, it's a way to connect with their past, even if maybe their father's past or grandpa's passed away. It's still a way to connect with those memories. Yeah. And absolutely, and to it feels like walking away from that. Yeah. And so that that could that's a very valid reason for not wanting to do that.
SPEAKER_00:If that is your way of, like you say, reconnecting, because when I get out there, a lot of times I I've solved so many life, so many of my life's problems in a tree stand, yeah, and half the world's problems as well. I could be president, just be because that's your time where you really unwind, and everything that is a pressure or some kind of stress in your life just seems to fall away, and you can really get down to who you are with self-reflection, with where am I at? You know what I mean? You really just get alone with yourself.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And I get that. If it's like my dad passed, yeah, he's the one that introduced me to hunting, and there's times where I sit out there and I just think about him, and I can still hear his voice and things that he's told me over the years, and my mom the same way, she's passed.
SPEAKER_01:And as you've made the point, we only have so many hunts left in us. That's exactly. So if you're going out with your grandfather and he's only got so many hunts, there's a social time. Because the the importance isn't the hunt, it's the relationship that you're working on. So completely makes sense. There's the case for clear cuts that yeah, you it's not about, and that's the same way with your kids. It's not about the hunt, it's about who you're hunting with.
SPEAKER_00:I uh was approached by oh my gosh, why am I drawing a blank on it? Up in Paulsbow across the divide.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, you had to say something. Now I'm forgetting his name.
SPEAKER_00:Mo from Cross the Divide.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, Mo, okay. I thought you were talking about one of the participants.
SPEAKER_00:He had contacted me and asked me if I would get a hunt together for a pastor who had cancer for him and his son.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And it was all about it, and the pastor was in stage four and was deteriorating rapidly. It had come on him quite rapidly. And uh sent me the contact information. I reached out, and he and myself and the pastor had some conversations and whatnot, and I was all excited, getting it geared up, making it happen, you know, working on where we could do it and the access, making it as easy as possible. And I was going to film him and his son in that blind. And the the reason the dad wanted it was so that he could leave something to his boy to remind him of what they've done together and how much he loved him and all that. Unfortunately, the gentleman had passed away before the hunt came to fruition. But I thought to myself, if I ever was put in that situation, I absolutely would do as much as I could with my kids.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You know what I mean? And so, yeah, making memories is absolutely what it's all about. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. Next point when your locating fails, access is lost, or something ruins a set. For example, he had a set where that everything around it was log smack in the middle of season. You actually experienced some logging by one of your sets this season, but last year opening day, you lost access to a great spot. Yeah. And the locker room, I'm still in therapy over that one. And it's one of those where, yeah, you still want to go out hunting. Everything has gone south.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. You can't just write the season off.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, you can cry in your coffee for a little bit, but if you're any kind of hunter, you still want to go out. Yeah. You do what you can.
SPEAKER_01:But there's a lesson. We always have backup sets. That's exactly multiple backup sets.
SPEAKER_00:And this year we had several guys, even on the pro staff, that said that their sets got flooded out.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, because of that.
SPEAKER_00:They were literally underwater.
SPEAKER_01:The monsoons that we had going there.
SPEAKER_00:So you never know.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Or locating, yeah. Yeah, when that fails, which that can happen as far as you think you're in the right spot and you're just not. And it just comes down to you just want some success. You just want to keep moving. And you know that something isn't going to happen at that particular set. Which honestly, I might have been more motivated to move along because I had a cougar come into my set.
SPEAKER_00:I was just going to say you had a cat move into your area.
SPEAKER_01:Ryan, one of our listeners, he another yeah. He had a cat come in.
SPEAKER_00:We've bears bears on numerous occasions.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and we had a couple of pro staff guys that had bears come in, and it just blows up. And I didn't realize that. I just kept pushing through because I didn't realize that a cat messed up a set that bad. I would have moved had I realized it. So like next year, if I knew I had a cat in the area, I wouldn't stay. I'd be going to a different set.
SPEAKER_00:The deer are not gonna, they're just not gonna be around.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Okay. And our next point, high predator numbers on sets. Yeah. And we just talked about it. You just have a whole bunch of Oregon guys that if you're doing baits, dropping apples, and the bears are bringing in bears, and you just can't do anything to stop them. Yeah. Predators really mess things up.
SPEAKER_00:You have a warm season and the bears don't go down.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and it was this year. Yeah. It until I think it was just right before Christmas. We had uh that last week or so where we got some good frosts.
SPEAKER_00:But here we are, early January, and it's in the 50s again.
SPEAKER_01:Back up, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So it's just it's been a weird winter.
SPEAKER_01:So, next point financial constraints that make doing the system challenging, not being able to afford equipment, scents, clothing, etc., and walking into a local cut, or a friend offers to pay for gas and drive if you go with. There are costs related to ours. And I would say the bait is if you were to do bait, that's actually a pretty minimal cost, considering I think regardless, there's always a cost to any kind of hunting you do.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah whether you're baiting or whatever. You're paying for gas, you're paying for food. And I don't know a single hunter that doesn't get some kind of little treat for themselves every single year, as far as oh, I got some new camel, or I picked up a new weapon, a bow or a rifle or a skull. What's under the Christmas tree? Yeah. The ammunition for rifles and arrows for broadheads for bows.
SPEAKER_01:But see, you're buying new arrows every year, and so there's an expense. And then there's you and I, because we're pro staff with Buck Ventures, we get a nice discount on our inks and our scents or synthetics and everything. But even with the discount, I still dropped a hundred bucks on all that. And some years, sometimes a hundred bucks is what do I do I want, do I want some scent or some do nestris, or do I want dinner for a week? And if you're making those type of decisions, yeah, yep. Cutting costs, and again, when you're bringing in, there's some luxury items that we pick up, and there's always a cheaper option, but I would say, because we we've gotten ozonics, that's an expensive part, and tree stands and all that stuff can really add up with the idea of bringing them in under 20 yards. And if it just comes down to you just need your weapon and a and a halfway okay set of binos, yeah, yeah, there is there's a big cost difference between those. So it is the most frugal way to be able to go hunt. And so, yeah, that's a legitimate reason to go clear.
SPEAKER_00:And I don't know that getting them in close guarantees a hit.
SPEAKER_01:This is true.
SPEAKER_00:I've taken a lot of guys out that have, and I'm not gonna say anything bad because I've done it myself, but I've missed close up. I did, yeah, you know, buck fever gets a hold of you, and all of a sudden I don't remember if I aimed, I don't remember looking through my peep, I don't remember bringing the gun to my shoulder.
SPEAKER_01:Or like this year for me, I had a decent little fork horn come in and 15 yards away, but he was just where he was at. I couldn't get a shot at 15 yards, yeah, because it was just too much in between me and him. Yep. There's no guarantees. Yep. What do you say? It's that's why it's hunting, not killing. It's hunting, not killing.
SPEAKER_00:Sometimes it's just walking and hiking, hike and hope and exercise, yes, and no hunting.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I got a good mile and a half walk in today on uneven ground. That was some good exercise these last few days. So I got my cardio in walking in. And out of those drainages. So, next point, when you have a doe or any deer tag. So, again, if this system, the goal is ultimately to get that mature buck in the area.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I don't know if I would say the goal is to get your trophy. The goal is to get your trophy. There's some guys that come to the seminars and classes, and they're just wanting to be more successful at deer hunting. They're wanting more opportunities. With the sense and the way we use them, it does provide for that. It does give you more opportunities.
SPEAKER_01:But if you have a dough tag, you don't necessarily need to.
SPEAKER_00:If you and a lot of guys are just looking, if they got a dough tag, a lot of those guys that get that are looking to fill the freezer.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's a great plan. It is a great plan. There's no better meat out there as far as beef or pork or anything like that. I mean, this is organic.
SPEAKER_01:And even if you had a very small year and a half old, you're still 40 pounds, 30, 40 pounds of meat.
SPEAKER_00:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:Something like that.
SPEAKER_00:But point being, it's your tag. If that's what you put in for, then that's your goal, then go out and get it. I can't talk to anybody bad about that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and but that goes into what my point was if your trophy is meat in the freezer, well, there you go.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. By all means.
SPEAKER_01:Don't go through all the expense and all this to Well, you're not putting out buckinestris, you know what I mean? Yeah. Okay. Just shoot the dough. Yeah. As an opportunity to explore new areas for potential future year sets. So yeah, especially if you're driving, I would say, road hunting, where you might be moving from clear cut to clear cut or open area, maybe under power lines. I think about that. You and I went out road hunting that one time. Yeah. And we would stop and glass the clear cuts, and but at the same time, we're always looking at potential habitat. And I think we did find that day, we found a really great potential spot.
SPEAKER_00:A couple of them, yeah. And you'll see this in a lot of good hunters. They're always scouting. Even when they're hunting, they're scouting.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Even in the offseason, it may be July, but they're driving the road or whatever, and they look, oh, they're always looking.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. Next one, when you didn't plan ahead to establish your sets, and for this system, it turns into an almost year-round, I would say year-round, yeah, kind of pursuit.
SPEAKER_00:Like I said, you're always scouting.
SPEAKER_01:And things come up, and you just don't have the time to do what you want to do during the off-season, and then season sneaks up on you. Yeah. And all of a sudden, oh wait, I'm supposed to be out hunting in two weeks, and I've got to go find a specific spot, and I've got to go put up a ground blind, or I've got to go put up a tree stand, and I've got to go do this and this and this, all these different aspects of it. Yeah, yeah. And you've been hunting for 40 plus years now, but I would say even now seasons tends to still sneak up on you.
SPEAKER_00:As far as yeah, life happens. I mean, yeah, we've all got jobs, we've all got families, and year to year we all get older. Yeah. You know, so we lose loved ones sometimes, we lose jobs sometimes, unexpected bills. My daughter got married this year.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And so my whole summer was just filled with gearing up towards that. Yeah. And it was like it sneaks up, like you said, things go faster as you get older.
SPEAKER_01:And then this year, I think there was a lot more of guys reaching out to us about with some questions and wanting those last-minute bits of help. And it got pretty busy. Yeah. When weather is at a point where being in set would be miserable, dangerous, or ruin your future ability to hunt that set, like the wrong wind, trees, falling, snow, rain if you don't have the property gear. We had a lot of that this year. We had some good windstorms. We had a lot of rain.
SPEAKER_00:Really good windstorms, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And you had in one of your sets because of the way that the winds were blowing and that they took out some trees.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they had logged this last summer, which exposed a whole hillside that didn't that wasn't exposed to the weather before. Was protected from the wind by other trees. I went in there after the windstorm, and there was just in my it around my set, there was 12 trees that went down.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And one, two of them just missed my tree stand. Just missed my tree stand. And it took it from being really closed in to really wide open. And yeah, now it's completely wide open, which changed all the deer activity. I didn't really have an opportunity to harvest like I wanted to, because the deer activity, it took it from deer daylighting to deer when they did daylight, it was like with 30 seconds of daylight left.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:They just didn't want to come in there.
SPEAKER_01:And I had the wind on one of my sets last year knocked over some trees where I would have been basically sitting. I'd done a little makeshift, not sort of groundblind. I was just gonna sit in a like a stadium chair on the ground, and I would have had like full 60, 80 foot tall fir trees landing on my legs had I been out there, which made it a lot of fun because it was a cluster of I think three or four trees, all fell all around where I was sitting. Yeah, it made it a lot of fun getting my stuff out because I think it took me an hour to climb over and reach down in between this stuff, but yeah, that makes sense. And we had somebody with a lot of windstorms this year, and the rain is one thing with uh just not wanting to be miserable.
SPEAKER_00:Right, right. And I get that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I've sat through a lot of rainstorms and snowstorms and even windstorms, but when they get to a certain point, it's dangerous to be out there.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. If you have yet to attend a blacktail coach class and don't fully understand the system yet.
SPEAKER_00:So well, that's an easy answer.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Just come to a class.
SPEAKER_01:Just come to a class and hurry. We're two-thirds full of all of our classes. In fact, our online course is actually closed because it's full right now. And that just which blows our mind because we haven't even gotten to the shows yet. So now we're working on a wait list for the online course. But yeah, classes are filling up. But there's always uh hunters gathering this year. That's a good backup.
SPEAKER_00:That's gonna be phenomenal.
SPEAKER_01:Absolutely phenomenal. So Trent Fisher, Heather Aldrich, Alex Cheney, Dave, all teaching their tactics, all successful people. So elk, blacktail, turkey, bear. Yeah, that's a lot of learning.
SPEAKER_00:It's gonna be awesome. Yeah, it is gonna be awesome.
SPEAKER_01:And being able to spend time with all these people because they're gonna be sitting at the breakfast table and the lunch table.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, elk is king.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You know, Trent is very well known, born and raised, and I know guys are just I almost need to put a disguise on him because he's not gonna have any time. Guys are just gonna be all over him asking him everything, and that's fine.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, he's excited for that. We were talking about because last year, I think it was Alex who brought one of those propane fire pits. Yep. And we lit that up, and everybody was just hanging out around that one evening and just chatting, and he said that sounded great, just being able to chat with guys. And yeah, so yeah, they're all looking forward to being able to share their knowledge and stuff.
SPEAKER_00:But if you haven't that has nothing to do with this episode, you're just so excited about it.
SPEAKER_01:But hey, you know, the clear cuts, if you're just getting into hunting, you're just learning how to hunt. There you go.
SPEAKER_02:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:Pair of binoculars and a weapon. Yeah. And looking for an animal to come out there.
SPEAKER_00:All we really care about is that you're ethical and you enjoy the hunt.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You'll make the memories if you just keep those things in mind. Just be ethical and enjoy your hunt.
SPEAKER_01:And I found this up. I just am not satisfied with just staying where I'm at. I know I need to learn about this. So I start looking into something, or I just want to. This year I did more calling and rattling than I'd ever done.
SPEAKER_00:It's how men are wired.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:We're hunters. We're not gatherers.
SPEAKER_01:Which is why I ignored all the chanterelle mushrooms that we had. Yeah, I can't gather those because I'm a hunter.
SPEAKER_00:It's the alpha male in us.
SPEAKER_01:I do. I have I have chanterell. In fact, when I went to pull my set a year a couple of weeks ago, I still had all the chanterelle mushrooms all around my set, and I was really tempted. I thought, no, daylight's burning. I got other things to do, but someday maybe I'll actually go in there and pull extra mushrooms, yeah. Pull mushrooms out, but not this year. So anyway, that is all of the bullet points. We've covered all of them. Thanks for listening. And if you could go leave us a like, follow, subscribe, heart, whatever your platform asks, we would really appreciate that. Send us a question, send us a comment. Appreciate getting those. We'd love to respond to those. And we'll be at the shows at the end of the month up in Puallop and then down in Portland. And come by, chat with us. We'd love to meet you. We love meeting our listeners. And until next week, talk to you later.
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